The Dark Side of Nature 2

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The Dark Side of Nature 2

Postby van » Fri May 11, 2007 2:59 am

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Following on from Stan's (Skinjob) post (Random Thoughts)
Why deem that Nature has "a dark side"?
Given that "Human Nature" equates itself with "Enlightenment" while historically proving false to that claim, should one be able to decide that Nature has a dark side?

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Postby AJRC_CS » Fri May 11, 2007 4:56 am

No, is the simple answer. I think many people see a dark side and light side. Maybe a cute deer would be a light side and a ugly bear a dark side, now if the ugly bear killed the cute deer then the bear would be evil. But in reality it's all Mother Nature at work, the food chain has no time for morality, no time for light and dark sides. If the bear is hungry it will do what it must to survive, if that means killing a cute deer then that's what it'll do.

I think too often we project our own morality onto nature, when really our morality has no place in nature. But that's "humanity" for you. :D
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Postby meadow » Fri May 11, 2007 6:38 am

everything in nature has a duality...light and dark.

"dark" doesn't need to be equated with negativity or something "bad".

death is dark but not necessarily evil or bad but it is a part of the whole of nature and humanity.
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Postby bermbits » Fri May 11, 2007 12:11 pm

My feeling is that Nature simply "is"! There is no good or bad - it's what we label it for whatever reason. Nature is. Rain is "good" if you are a farmer. If you are going on a picnic, rain is "bad." Actually, It's neither (or both). Rain is... rain.
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Postby ohlia » Fri May 11, 2007 3:08 pm

I believe everything is here for a reason and supports a function in the use and benefit of all creation and the environment.
Someone’s decision about there being a dark side of nature, that is only their perception. Everything has different meanings and uses to each of us man, beast, and the environment.
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Postby Silke » Sat May 12, 2007 5:07 am

I think all forces in nature is good; there is no bad.

if not for rain, things will not grow. if not for the bear taking the deer it might become too many deers there, trampeling and eating too much vetetables, killing off the nature there and dying in turn. might beak out a pest of some sort, destroying even more. what happens in nature happens for a reason: nature´s balance.

perhaps humans is that pest?
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Postby van » Sun May 13, 2007 7:05 pm

Kia ora Silke

I think all forces in nature is good; there is no bad.


Quite
Of course if you are a nature lover and take up hugging trees and become Wiccan, you are deemed to favour the "dark side"
Goes to show how the mind works when afeared

perhaps humans is that pest?


Couldn't agree more!!

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Postby meadow » Sun May 13, 2007 8:01 pm

exactly how does a Wiccan "favour" the dark side? if you mean because the Christians say so out of ignorance then your statement makes a little sense. otherwise, i'm confused. i'm Wiccan and do not favor any side more than the other. both are part of life and death. one isn't better than the other since all are part of Mother Nature.
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Postby pilvikki » Sun May 13, 2007 8:23 pm

yes, you are confused:

Of course if you are a nature lover and take up hugging trees and become Wiccan, you are deemed to favour the "dark side"


in other words, some people will label a wiccan as evil/from the dark side, NOT that you are.
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Postby Silke » Mon May 14, 2007 12:09 pm

meadow: I belive that was ironic.

wiccan, eh? I thought about becomming one once, until I found out how they generally had an attitude of "good you want to learn, but learn of someone else because I refuse to stuff my religion down your throat". Seeing how I didn´t come anywhere (and I talked to at least twenty before realizing defeat) I gave up. Nice principles though... :wink:
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Postby van » Mon May 14, 2007 6:27 pm

Kia ora Meadow

exactly how does a Wiccan "favour" the dark side? if you mean because the Christians say so out of ignorance then your statement makes a little sense. otherwise, i'm confused. i'm Wiccan and do not favor any side more than the other. both are part of life and death. one isn't better than the other since all are part of Mother Nature.


I am not suggesting that Wiccan's are or have a "dark" side, merely pointing out that those ignorant and confined to their own little belief systems often see any belief other then their own as a possible threat/fear and therefore attach a "dark" label

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